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    [quote=โ€Kelemelanโ€ post=2185]Yeah, well, Iโ€™m from a time when there were no so-called computer rpgs and nothing but pen & paper. So to me, RPG means RPG and everything else is something else : boardgame, computer game, mmo, what have youโ€ฆ[/quote]

    Sure, if you want to use overly broad definitions.. it just falls apart as soon as someone says โ€œwhat kind of game is that?โ€

    While Star Fleet Battles and Settlers of Catan are both boardgames for example, theyโ€™re about as different in theme, scope, and complexity as possible, and one in no way can serve as a frame of reference for the other.

    Describing an RPG as โ€œlike Dungeons & Dragonsโ€ likewise describes games with common mechanical or thematical elements, it also implies some very specific traits and in no way encompasses the breadth of the genreโ€ฆ like Mythic for example, that can be played entirely without a DM/GM.. or Traveler that takes place in space and uses an entirely different mechanical system.

    My point being like โ€œRPGโ€ is overly broad and inadequate to describe the breadth of games available under that umbrella, likewise is โ€œboardgameโ€. You mentioned in another thread you think of boardgames as things like monopoly or chess, but thatโ€™s an outdated and very limited definition. Some boardgames in my collection like Leviathans, Crimson Skies, and Renegade Legion have a vastly more interesting story and universe with significantly better mechanics for roleplaying in them than many RPGs Iโ€™ve seen. Crimson Skies wonโ€™t do if you want to figure out what you have to roll for initiative before combat, but thereโ€™s not a single RPG on the planet that would beat it for role-playing a fighter pilot in an alternate 1930โ€™s universe. Not. One.

    So describing some boardgames as โ€œlight RPGsโ€ is the most accurate definition. The term โ€œAdventure gameโ€ used to be more common, but that term has likewise become too broad to really mean much.

    Note that I tried many of these, and they are most certainly entertaining. Iโ€™m just saying that they are not RPGs, thatโ€™s all. ๐Ÿ™‚

    ..theyโ€™re not traditional P&P RPGs. But I donโ€™t think anyone could make the sane argument that the RPG genre wouldnโ€™t encompass games like Mage Knight or Magic Realm.

    Lucky for you, most boardgamers hear the term RPG and still think about P&P games first and foremost ๐Ÿ™‚